What happens when you think things are on track and then life has other plans? Do you go with the flow? That’s what Patty and her guest Mia are talking about today.
Mia is a mom, a coach and entrepreneur. Once of the things Mia helps people is with their relationship with food. Hear how she mastered the food conversation in her head and how she helped her daughter heal as well.
Find out how you can allow your kids to “borrow your calm.”
Mia reminds us that our kids don’t need us to be perfect, they need us to be present and with them in the moments. It gives our kids permission to show up as their best selves.
Find out how Mia realized that her body and health needed a change. It was a journey that helped her in ways that she was not expecting.
Mia’s advice from the lessons learned from her experience:
- Slow down. Feel your feelings
- Remember that things really are happening for you, not to you.
- Pause and tap into your intuition.
- See the possibility that everything will be okay.
- Lean into the moment.
- Find support when you need it.
It’s okay to embrace that life is a process and there’s no end destination. It’s meant to be a rich experience each day.
Planning is a moment in time, and we can make certain that we are in a high-vibration moment when we are making plans. Talk to your future self and see what she needs in the next 60 or 90 days. It’s about deciding in advance so we can be in the flow.
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0:00:04.3 S1: Welcome to the space for magic podcast, where people who are led by their hearts come to learn the secrets to receiving all the gifts the Universe has for us. I’m your host, Patty Lennon. I’m an ex-type a corporate banker, turned intuitive coach using a blend of common sense brain science and just a dash of magic, I’m here to help you create abundance in every area of your life and business. Welcome. Hey there, everyone. Welcome to this episode of the space for magic podcast. I have my good friend and colleague Mia Moran with us today, she is a coach, a wellness expert, she’s the creator of the flow planner, and I have a few questions that I know are going to resonate with you today, you, the listener, about what happens when you think that your life is kind of going the way you expected it to go, and that gets up-ended in ways that you could not have imagined, where you think you’ve checked the boxes and you’re good to go, and where life just hand you a left curve and you have a choice on whether to go with it or not, go with it. And how do you approach that? So that’s what we’re gonna be talking about today.
0:01:26.2 S1: So with that, welcome. Thank you, thank you so much for having me here. Thank you for being our… So what did I not share about you that that’s probably important for people to understand before we get into questions and conversation.
0:01:45.9 S2: I’m a mom of three, that might be one important thing I’ve now officially can say I have three teens as we’re recording this, which is kind of crazy. I know. What else did you not share? And I am a coach and even my coach, that’s an important piece of information, so yes, we’re friends and colleagues, and when I first met you though, I was kind of obsessed with you and you help you at the time, we’re doing something very different and help me with my crowd funding campaign. So we’ve known each other for a while.
0:02:14.7 S1: Oh my god. We’ve known each other for so long. I know.
0:02:18.1 S2: ’cause I’m sure that’s so out of what you do right now, but… Yeah, that’s it. And I’m a coach, I think you already said that.
0:02:24.6 S1: So far out of what I do get, it’s like finding some clothes, as my daughter would say from the 2012
0:02:34.9 S2: In the closet… Oh my God, so long ago. 22, I love it.
0:02:40.1 S1: Actually, speaking of which yesterday she came home and she was like, Mom, good news. And I was like, What? She was like, Guess what’s back in style? And I was like, What? She’s like This yoga pants that flare at the bottom, it… Those weren’t even considered for donation… those did not go out of style. As far as I’m concerned, right? If those came back in the style already, they didn’t even get old enough to be given a… I don’t really can’t. We said they were. So the first thing I wanna talk about is something you mentioned to me when I was actually on your podcast, and that was that for me, when I look at you, one of the things that I really see you as is someone who has mastered food and nutrition, from a completely different space. So when you were doing… I think this was what the crowdfunding campaign was for, but even just what I was learning about your early work, what I found so fascinating was you had started cooking, I think it was vegan, but definitely vegetarian, you had found all these great recipes that your kids would like…
0:03:48.0 S1: And I was so impressed that you can do that, and fast forward now, you told me that your daughter had some struggles with food and crushing that was because you felt like you had kind of nailed at least that piece of the puzzle. Absolutely, absolutely.
0:04:12.9 S2: That is not so old information, it was definitely during the pandemic and yeah, it was bad. It was really hard and it was bad, and many people were like, You can’t do this yourself, and I just had this inside knowing that I was the one who was supposed to be helpful, and so we took it on in our house and we did our work so that we could really be the… I did my work so I could really be there for her, and my work had less to do with solving her issues and more to do with solving my issues with food, with my mother, with just everything with my relationship to my body and times that I hadn’t listened to my intuition, and as I really, at the same time, stayed so present to her and honoring where she was and committed to really continuing on this path to the best version of myself, we found Healing very quickly.
0:05:27.2 S1: It’s kind of magic. Yeah, I think it’s so powerful. Plus, I know you just told it in a very short amount of time, and I know that the journey wasn’t like five seconds, it’s not my seconds.
0:05:40.1 S2: It… It’s funny, it felt like years, but actually it was months, so it was much shorter than years, which it could have been ’cause other people have similar stories that have lasted years, but it was definitely all-consuming… It was definitely all-consuming for that time, and the things that were impactful just weren’t the things that anybody was telling us would be impactful that a doctor or a psychiatrist or anybody would say, so it was an interesting process. In what life is, it’s a process, there is no end destination, and we’re probably gonna have to learn these lessons over and over and over again, right. And I just think the pandemic really, or whatever this time is that we’re in, I’m just calling it that, but it’s amplified all that for a lot of people.
0:06:26.5 S1: It really did, especially my mind’s going in so many different places, so I just kinda walk you through some of the questions that are on my mind… And you can pick which one you wanna talk to. So the first question is, a lot of what I’ve been taught by my teachers and mentors and also have kind of gotten from my guides is our children really are just processing our stuff. Yeah, and the point where that changes is puberty, but your daughter was kind of just stepping into that space, so I would love to get your take on that. The other thing I wanted to talk about is… Let’s go back, I do want you to give those that are listening an understanding of what your original journey with food and how you got to this place where you kind of felt like You mastered it, and I think that would have been a fair assumption based on watching you. And then the third place where I definitely wanna get to is for someone listening, whether they have… That’s their thing, is that they thought they were at one place with their kid and they’re actually…
0:07:36.2 S1: Something shows up that was totally different or it’s like… You know what I’m seeing with a lot of my entrepreneur friends, they thought their business was running very smoothly and all of the sudden, and they got through the original pandemic year, like 20-20, but then all of sod2 just up-ended their business or… Do you know someone thought that their family life was on track, their marriages on track, and then that was up-ended and just things that they thought they could count on, all of the sudden, the thing they thought they had cleaned up, they had done their work on just kind of got upended I want you to give some advice to someone who’s sitting here in that place, so you might have to repeat some of that… I’m gonna start at the beginning, so
0:08:24.3 S2: I’ll start at the beginning with the kids and really taking on our stuff and then at some point being released from that, so I think for me, that was one of the most interesting learnings and all this… Was that… Yes, to some extent that’s true. Except I think as a society, we got a little mixed up from what we were releasing them from and what we aren’t… So for example, we hold on really tight to our kids… Great, I’m just talking very generally right now, I know not everybody listening does this, but we might hold on really tightly to their grades or to chores around the house, very logical things that actually probably we can give them more responsibility earlier with… And then we let go of some of the more emotional and spiritual pieces earlier, and the truth is, is that a human brain is not fully able to process thought until they’re like 23 or 26, depending on whether they’re a boy or girl. And so there’s this whole concept that like many of us didn’t even learn as adults, ’cause our parents weren’t doing this work about how the nervous system works and how we are connecting to higher power and all these things that I just think our kids need to feed on our energy for much longer than we think around those things, so I feel like we almost…
0:09:54.6 S2: I mixed it up, and I will say that a lot of the work that I ended up doing was more around me having a really calm nervous system, me being super grounded, so that I could feel myself on the earth, but also receive whatever guidance I needed to receive, so that I could basically let her borrow that in the moment, and I don’t think that goes away and the team… I think that’s something that we can keep doing for longer, in fact, we really need to… That’s how we’re gonna have really emotionally smart people, ’cause we can pass that on now, and that’s something that most of… Maybe a few special people, I’ve had that in their parents, but not all of us did, and so if we can become that and really let our kids borrow from that and get through stuff because we’re calm, like calm to me is the thing to strive for, because they can… Like anyone in the room can borrow your calm, but really… Definitely your kid can.
0:10:56.3 S1: Oh my goodness, I am so excited that you just said that, so excited. You just had that for so many reasons, I hope if you’re listening… And you have kids, please. Please listen to that. Take it in. I am seeing so many people, especially my son is a junior, and parents go in crazy pants… A crazy pants. Yeah, it’s pretty insane. And I wanna tell them like, if you get your child into college, some great College on the back of your efforts and you deliver them to the front door of that college, a hot mess inside… It doesn’t matter, we got them there, they won’t have the internal resources to manage independently, I don’t think… Yeah, no.
0:11:58.4 S2: Totally. And that’s where I think it’s really important, like separating the things like I don’t know that I was perfect teaching all the things like… This year I have a senior, so I have my son’s one year older, and I was like, Wow, I wonder if he knows how to wash. I was thinking that kind of recently, but then on the other side of that, I’ve leaned so much into this sort of nervous system and just really the piece that I think is missing in a lot of humans, which is just really becoming… Like having that awareness of who you are, who you’re meant to be here to be, and I looked at him after the college process and I was like, I think you just got an education, he dug so deep into who he is and what has been meaningful and just the process of that, I was like, I don’t even know if you need to go to college. That typical education is not my favorite way to learn it, I happen to have kids who love it, but it’s just really interesting, it’s really interesting when we don’t bow down to all the pressure and all the ways that it’s supposed to be and really nurture emotions instead.
0:13:06.7 S2: What that gives our kids permission to show up as…
0:13:11.4 S1: Yes, and I just wanna say, if you’re listening, I know I just sounded so judgmental there in my kid, I’m gonna own it, I’m gonna own it, I really have been so… That’s from my work. Well, and we’re all in a big on learning process, if the past two year showed us anything, it’s like all these systems are broken very much including our educational one, so we’re in it. So we have to show up for it, but it’s not quite right. And it doesn’t, you know what I mean? So it’s a mess right now. And so we’re gonna show up with messy, we’re gonna say messy things about it as well. Well, it’s changing it. And part of it, although I sound judgmental, it is partly out of love, because I’m seeing some of my friends and they’re like, they are shaking with nerves… Yes, because their child did not perform, so the juniors were mid-freshman year, and then their sophomore year… Right, and now they’re trying to figure out how to be a high school student without really having experience, ’cause we were primarily in our school district in isolation for, I’d say up until this year, so their freshman and junior, it was like…
0:14:26.3 S1: I would say 80% of the time, their students just don’t know how to navigate the skill that would have gotten in freshman year, they didn’t get… Right.
0:14:35.6 S2: But even if they did, that was my big lesson from this year, which I did not navigate perfectly at all, right now I’m in hindsight, so I get to say like the winds and the gratitude I had from that whole process, it was definitely quite messy in the middle… And the thing that I really was able to eventually do with the help of my guides and also guidance from professionals was to really step into what was mine. So my guess is, is that a lot of us… And I found this coming up, like I’ve said for years that I don’t care about who goes to college, who does what, and then all of a sudden were in the middle of the process and I found myself caring. And so then I feel like it’s my job. Like what is that like? Where is that? I did, maybe I didn’t feel like I did it totally right, or Maybe I wish something different or I was supported more, and so I think a lot of times when we exhibit behaviors that aren’t necessarily in the highest good of our kids becoming exactly who they’re meant to become…
0:15:40.2 S2: That’s when it really is. What do we need to look at? Where is this US? Not them. Yeah, my guess is that comes up a lot around college…
0:15:50.6 S1: Yeah, yeah, because… And I think it depends on where you’re living, but since we both live in the North East, it fairly similar is, it does become this almost this parental competition and so… Okay, so we can move off of that to all them to redirect you to my second question, which you could, can you just talk to audience a little bit, talk to me ’cause I know the story of what happens in your life. ’cause you had a health issue that introduced you to the fact that what you were eating was really a big factor, so talk about that..So
0:16:30.7 S2: Basically, the beginning of my story was, I don’t know, a little over 12 years ago, my youngest just turned 13, so it was about right before she turned one, and at the time I owned a graphic design studio, and I just remember this day where I looked across my desk and there was the stack of coffee cups and it was like not even three, I was like, How have I accumulated that many coffee cups since I got here this morning, and also, first of all, like how I… I left the office how many times, but also like, Why am I still tired? Because I had been sold that caffeine gave you energy, so I was like, Why am I still tired after all those cups of coffee, and that was just kind of like… If we all have a moment where we have to draw a line in the sand, that was mine, and it just sort of created a series of events I to believe in, we’re always led to that next thing, so somehow that led me to a yoga class, which led me to meet the teacher, which she told me she had this way that I had to try eating and so I tried it, and I really did turn around my health very quickly, I was kind of all in…
0:17:42.9 S2: To lose the baby weight, I will fully admit. And that’s one of the hitches. And then what happened was, I very, very, very quickly got healthy in ways that I didn’t even know I was sick, I was so like… I had been taking all these random medicines for allergies and hormones, and All of a sudden I was like, I wonder if I still need those, and I stopped taking them and I haven’t needed them since, so a lot of symptoms I was dealing with went away when I changed my food, and one of the other things that happened, and again, I make this sound like it all happened in a day, it was a process for sure. I literally did not know. I couldn’t have told you the difference between many vegetables… At this point, I was not a cook. I was at the very beginning of my journey, but I had had just… One of the outcomes was that I felt like I had 10… The best way to explain it is I felt like I had had 10 years of therapy, or what I imagined it would feel like if I had actually gone to 10 years of therapy, I just felt happy and I felt grounded and I felt a connection to source that I just hadn’t felt in a really long time, and it ended up that I have a sensitivity to gluten and to dairy, and I think those foods were literally like fogging my system, so to speak, and so…
0:19:05.4 S2: Because the food sort of had that result, I think that there was thinking and beliefs that I just didn’t deal with at that point, and Life sort of led me down a path of that being fine for a while, and then I hit that miraculous time of your mid-40s where hormones, kick in and All of a sudden a lot came into question again, and I wasn’t feeling my best and I was feeling tired and different symptoms were back that I had been so used to not living with, and so I started dealing with those and I think that that then was noticed within my household, and so I had to go back and do that work that I hadn’t done at the very beginning of really learning how to love my body, no matter how she was feeling that day, and just forgiving past circumstances that I thought were responsible for me being this way, and all the different things and… That was sort of the next level.
0:20:12.2 S1: Yeah, so you’re saying because just for you listening is, so you did find a way to eat healthy, but it was really because your body became what you wanted it to be, eating healthy that you really thought you had accepted it. Yeah, and there was this whole energy, I was just… I literally was eating food that made me happy, like the making of it or the thinking about it, it sounded kind of boring, but literally in my body, I felt good, and I hadn’t felt that good, and I realized that a lot of the times there were a lot of times where I had negative thoughts about my body image or whatever, I felt uncomfortable in my body, that just went away by getting healthy.
0:21:01.4 S2: And I think there was just thought loops in there that I hadn’t quite healed or comes at peace with, or behaviors I hadn’t forgiven, and that just really needed to happen in order to change what I think has been part of my lineage for generations, so we have this ability to just… We have the ability to draw a line in the sand for the future generations… Actually, you’ll like the story, you wanna hear really a spiritual story…
0:21:30.4 S1: Oh yeah, no, right now, the…
0:21:34.2 S2: So the team, the team involved some really logical people like nutritionists and whatnot, but it also involved a shaman, and so my daughter and I actually ended up at a fire ceremony at her house one day in the midst of everything, and it was just this beautiful… It was winter, it was just this beautiful ceremony, and I had this vision of wings coming off my back, and it’s almost like I could see the generations, and I could see how we were in the middle right then, right. So there was this whole wing of energy going to one side that was our past and this whole wing going to the future, and so I understand that there’s this whole lineage that I’ve come from that might have had all sorts of thoughts about a woman in her body… And so I’ve always kind of understood that, but I had never seen the future, I had never seen beyond what we were creating, what me and my daughters were creating for the future, and that was just really cool and… So I was like, Oh, this is a big responsibility. This isn’t just about me or her, it’s like a big deal, and it just so happened that three other people saw the wings that night, so I was like, Alright.
0:22:49.7 S2: No, no, this is real.
0:22:52.7 S1: Yeah, it was cool. Yeah, and that’s so interesting because it ties to something that I’ve been learning from two of my teachers that I work with, and one is that she’s been sharing with me that a lot of the cultures that had a long famine in them, which gosh i would feel like it’s every culture, but certainly within the last seven generations, alcoholism and obesity are the two most common, ancestral wounds that are handed down from that, and those are being called to the surface to be healed in ways that… From a generational standpoint. Yeah, and that speaks to the work you’re doing, ’cause it’s one thing to get sober, if you’re dealing with an addiction, it’s a different thing to heal the underlying ancestral wound. Right, yeah.
0:23:54.7 S2: And I think that’s new, it’s not new news, but I feel like that’s coming more to the planet right now, we’re understanding this more as humans, so
0:24:08.6 S1: I also think we didn’t have… We have now the… For lack of a better word, we have the metaphysical power, where only a few might have had it a few generations ago, because of the vibration of the planet, because of the assistance we’re getting from the other side of the veil, we actually… And because many wise and evolved souls choose to incarnate into common families is where maybe a more advanced all might have chosen a more isolated path where they could be in their spiritual work outside of normal everyday stresses. In this generation, a lot of souls are of… Ovals were incarnated into average a, and it’s amazing.
0:25:06.5 S2: It’s amazing to watch in our kids, ’cause when I look at my three, I’m just like, Whoa. I was so not that aware, you know, at age 13, 16 and 18, it’s kind of unbelievable, it’s like you can see how… We’re turning up the volume on how quickly we can get to this place. Yeah, it’s very cool.
0:25:28.3 S1: And then the other piece is just that we’re being called home, like our DNA is calling us home, both home within ourselves and then home to our ancestral lands, and I think it’s all a piece of that going back to your culture of origin and for both your own wellness and wholeness, but also for the healing of those wounds. So then the final question is, what advice do you have for someone who’s in their life or some aspect of their life has been turned on its head and they feel… And this even… And this I’ve talked about on the page, has happened to me, is it… I just felt betrayed by God essentially. I felt like, Whoa, I did my work, dude, ’cause when I talked to God, it’s the divine masculine, so I’m talking to my God of my origin, like my original religion, which is Catholicism, so I always seem as a dude… It’s always the one I get pissed at and I’m like, I did my shit, and that was supposed to be done. Right. And so this feeling of… And I’m over the betrayal, but what advice do you have or what is at…
0:26:48.8 S1: So funny, ’cause that’s my background too, so that’s funny that… That comes up, so I can totally relate. So I feel really blessed and lucky that I just had the most amazing mentor ever
0:27:02.5 S2: Sort of at the beginning of all this, and so I definitely started with the kicking and screaming of W-T-F, do I have to close down my business is… I was really at that point at the beginning, ’cause I was like, I just felt really out of alignment, I felt really like, Who am I to show up and coach people right now? Everything that I thought I knew, I’m doubting right now. And luckily, she really quickly just helped me to see what I kind of knew, which was that this was really happening for me, and so I think that that’s the most important first step, is just shifting the energy from, this is happening to me to this is happening for me, even though it feels hard and impossible and yucky, and I wish it would be tomorrow already, like all those things, but how can I just show up and fully be here, even though I really wish this wasn’t happening, and I feel like that was the biggest… Shift that created the most propelling forward… At a fast rate. And then the other thing was just really making time and space for everything that that entailed, and I’m wondering if this is why it’s happening so much right now, is because we slowed down literally as a whole world during the pandemic, because I think busyness is kind of like a glass of wine or a box of cookies, like it’s a way to really not have to face what we need to process and what we need to just feel for 90 seconds, all it takes is 90 seconds to feel a feeling and we can move through it and move on to the next feeling, and so really giving myself the time to be close to the family who I needed to be close to be with myself, tap into my intuition, like pause regularly, that was so important, so that I could hear what was next ’cause I was being really divinely guided and if I didn’t pause, I never would have known or heard or knowing what to do next.
0:29:19.4 S2: Does that make sense? Yeah, so I think those were kind of like the really to most personal responsibility. It’s happening. I hate that it’s all happening for a reason like that seems so cliche to me, but at least seeing the possibility that it’s all okay, like it all can be okay, ’cause I think the second we fight, which I had my moments, but the second were fighting… What’s happening? It’s really hard to say. We’re literally setting ourselves up super to be really hard to stay and board motion, and forward motion could be meditating for five minutes in my world or sleeping, it doesn’t have to be doing, doing doing, and so… But keeping to move forward, keeping to lean into the moment, into the situation, and then making space and time to do that, I think those are like three… And finding the support you need. I think that’s the third thing that is just so, so important because we have been so conditioned that we need to do all these things alone, and I just feel like that’s the biggest lie that we’ve been sold as women, and we just don’t give ourselves permission to be supported.
0:30:33.6 S2: And so I think at some point, at some point, that was just sort of given to us in many different ways, and then we just almost took that as like, This is the way it should be, and I think that really that’s not how we’re meant to do any of this, it’s not how we’re meant to grow businesses, it’s not how we’re meant to mother, it’s not how we’re meant to be as women, like women need community, we need circle, we need our people, our tribes, and so those three things together, I think really made the biggest difference
0:31:08.9 S1: Now, when you think about really what you do is you really help women connect to what true wellness is, that whole life wellness is, which is not you’re eating right or you’re getting exercise, it’s that you’re literally in the flow of your life. Right. And as I listen to you, what stands out to me is like, wow, for you to really mentor people where you were worried that you were out of alignment in for you to really, mentor women in this… This had to happen.
0:31:42.3 S2: Yes, 100%, which I can see now. But yeah, it was a little hard to see in the midst of it, right? I think that’s always the way…
0:31:49.1 S1: And I had a guest on, oh gosh, maybe six or seven episodes ago, Anna Tsui, and she had said… I was talking to her about in the shit storm we’re in, or at the time I was talking to our were and her take on it was, We are being asked to decide, is this a benevolent universe or is this a dangerous ones… And so this just feels like another layer of that, right, is it’s not, Oh, everything happens for a reason, but if we believe in a benevolent universe, then I love how you put it as the possibility that something good here is happening, even if it doesn’t feel like it…
0:32:29.3 S2: Yeah, yeah, 100%, 100%. I agree with that, and it’s funny ’cause that was… That was my thing. That was the thing that I’ve had since I was a little girl. I was always surrounded by people who didn’t necessarily think the universe was benevolent, and I’ve always felt that way, and so I feel like this was like, you know, like the next level test of that for me… For sure. Wow.
0:32:55.0 S1: Alright, we’re done with Next Level test Universe. Yes, thank you very much, outpost, for a minute, although there’s always the next level and it’s all good.
0:33:04.0 S2: It’s all part of the… I think also the end destination thinking, that makes it really hard, and we also are conditioned to think that so as long as we like an embrace that it’s a process, it’s gonna be a little swirl, it’s benevolent and we’re showing up to it. I just think the combo of all those things really helps us to be able to show up on a daily basis…
0:33:28.1 S1: Yes, is pointing to this sky and waving around and toyotomi.
0:33:34.1 S2: Joyful, encouraging motion. So talk about where people can find… You got a podcast. So I have a podcast and Patty has been on it. It’s called The Plan simple podcast, and you can find that anywhere that you listen to podcasts. And we also have a website where you can also find it. And that’s at plansimple.com. And so those are the two best ways. And we are releasing a new course called from overwhelmed ease, which is free And anyone’s welcome to come take it, and it’s really about how to navigate your day in a way that allows you to really tap into your intuition and to wisdom. And what that actually looks like in a very practical practice, everything I do looks very practical on the outside, but it’s always in partnership with the Spirit.
0:34:30.9 S1: Beautiful. Excellent, alright, well, any last words of wisdom you wanna leave with our audience…
0:34:38.6 S2: Let’s see. So this is one of the things that I love to think. So we didn’t go so much into planning today, which is what I normally talk about, but you all can come visit me to get that, but whenever I start to say planning, I feel like it takes people out of that, people automatically associate the planning and flow. Don’t go together. Or like the way that she should feel…
0:35:02.9 S1: Planning enjoy planning employee.
0:35:05.2 S2: Exactly, like somehow planning makes us like robots, and so what I like to think of planning is that it’s just that I’m like, I’m in a moment of time, and I can actually, in that moment of time control how I feel like I can make sure that I’m basically, in a high vibration moment, when I plan it, I can’t always do that when I’m like at dinner or I’m about to write an email. But at the time of planning, I can just delay planning five minutes and meditate or go on a walk or whatever, and I can make sure that my energy is really clean, and then I plan really connecting to my future self, really connecting to her and seeing what she needs of me in the next whatever week, 90 days, whatever it is that you’re planning, and so what happens is we then put that down on paper from this really clean space, and then when we land in that time, it’s basically like our past self has given our future self like this gift of just being able to land in the moment and not get stuck in all this decision is stuff that we always get stuck to, but really just be with what is there and process any emotions that come up and kick and scream if we need to and enjoy it, and all the different emotions that might come up, but really that all planning is deciding in advance and we can really see it as a gift from our past self to our future self, so we can really be in the now…
0:36:37.9 S1: That is so good. And I would say, just knowing how your work flows for you listening, if you have seen planning as sort of a sub title under a productivity course, or if you just… You planning is part of that hyper-productivity culture, and that’s just not you just understand that is not what you’re going to be learning here or that… It really is about flow, and I haven’t talked a lot about it since I sort of shifted gears in my work, but you know, I’m a big proponent of deciding where your time is gonna be spent ahead of time, not all your time, you just need to assign some of it. So if you and your heart have been thinking, one, either I wish I could plan better, or two, I’ve been in that productivity hyper-mode and it sucked the life out of me. Either one of those camps, this is work you wanna pay attention to, ’cause this is going to be that missing link to giving you some sense of… Your time back. Thank you.
0:37:58.0 S2: I love that.
0:37:58.8 S1: That is true. Yeah, well, thank you so much for being here. We will put all the links to everything, all the resources you just shared in our show notes, and… Thank you, thank you, thank you for sharing. So vulnerable today. Oh.
0:38:12.9 S2: Thank you so much for having me. It was such a pleasure.
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