Today Patty is talking to her friend and colleague Kate Vanden Bos. She’s the founder of Leading with Intuition, a nature-based coach and an intuitive guide. Kate specializes in guiding you to live a life led by the magic of your intuition.
Kate explains how her work has evolved in a way that’s felt like a continuation of what she was doing. It’s felt like a natural next step. She’s always been in the transformation space and her style of managing events was “letting it happen.”
Hear how letting things flow ended up being the most helpful for Kate’s event management style.
The unknown is as exciting as it is scary.
Kate shares how she’s doing a life review and why it’s helped her make shifts. A key element that changed is her willingness to stop trying to control every aspect. Surrender has become part of her life personally, and part of the work she does with clients.
Hear how she learned to listen. One of the tenets of her nature-based work is understanding that nature and the universe is always communicating. It’s up to us to become better listeners.
Find out how to ask yourself better questions.
We know that the world goes through seasons. Life has cycles that we can’t stop or delay. Kate explains that we can embrace it or resist it. Hear how bypassing challenge is sometimes stopping our development.
Kate talks about feeling like she’s always needed to be more. Know more, learn more, do more. Yet, she knows that she’s enough just as she is. We all are. Wouldn’t it be lovely to be able to be yourself, waking up every day loving yourself just as you are?
Kate’s end of year process for releasing and renewal includes knowing how to work with the seasons in your life. We all have a natural growth cycle. Hear how this can impact your path for the coming year.
Final thoughts: Embrace who you’ve become this year. Celebrate it all, even the hardships. You survived. You’re here. Each of those moments were opportunities for growth. Own them to empower yourself.
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0:00:04.3 S1: Welcome to the space for magic podcast where people who are led by their hearts come to learn the secrets to receiving all the gifts the Universe has for us. I’m your host, Patty Lennon. I’m an ex-type a corporate banker, turned intuitive coach using a blend of common sense, brain science and just a dash of magic, I’m here to help you create abundance in every area of your life and business. Welcome.
0:00:36.7 S2: Welcome to this last episode of the space for magic podcast in 2021. I’m your host, Patty Lennon, and I have a beautiful, amazing grace-filled guest with us today. My guest is Kate Vanden Bos, and before I give you her professional credentials right now… Or give you an understanding of who she is in the world today. I wanna take you back to when I met her, because it has a lot to do with why I specifically wanted her on for this episode. As you all know, we’ve been talking about it, this is a year that has been filled with change, and it’s a five-year, which is a year that is built on change, it’s the backbone of the energy, and Kate is someone that has embraced change throughout her life, specifically when I met, she was in the event world, so she was responsible for an event that I was speaking at, and as soon as I spoke to her the first time, there was just something different about her energy from all of the event managers that I had been in contact with in the past as a speaker, there was something light and just beautiful and artistic, I would almost say about her energy to the point that I kept thinking I was talking to the wrong person, and each time we connected…
0:02:11.7 S2: And now when I met her in person, exactly how I felt about her on the phone came through… In her personality, and she… A lot of times when someone is running an event, it’s a very stress-filled intense experience, but every interaction with Kate just felt like you were gliding along in the day, and she moved through the room and she experienced the room that way, at least from my perception. Today, she is doing something quite different and we’re gonna talk about what that is, but really what I wanted her here was to bring that energy into the podcast because I think it is an energy that so many people are craving right now at the end of a year, that feels like it was way more intense than we, but we expected it to be so… Hey, welcome.
0:03:06.1 S1: Wow, Patty, thank you so much for that beautiful introduction, and you know, I’m a huge raving fan of yourself and your work, and it’s a great honor for me to be here, it’s a pleasure. An absolute pleasure too. And this year on talking to you, and it has been a very interesting year, and I think it’s too early in the day to actually give it the correct adjective. We’re gonna look back probably over the next year, year and a half, two years to what the impact of this year actually was, but let’s just say it’s been interesting.
0:03:37.1 S2: Interesting. Yeah, we’ll call it that. And while I will say we are recording this week before when it’s actually dropping, so who knows what’s going to happen over the next couple of weeks before the actual end of the year, but why don’t we talk a little bit about what you are doing now to give context to what a shift from when I met you just a few years ago.
0:04:02.0 S1: Yeah, thanks. And it’s actually… It might feel like a pivot, but it’s actually a continuation, and that’s a really interesting way of looking back over a lot of the important pivot points in my life and in my career, and by seeing them as a continuation rather than a change. And I know we’re gonna be talking a lot about what has changed, what does it mean, how do we perceive change, and the event world is still very important to me, and I’ve grown and evolved within that and then out of it, so I grew into it from we can talk if you want to, about the journey that got me into the event space, but the… My predominant experience through the event world was in personal development, which then evolved into more of the spiritual development side of it, and especially now, I’m still very passionate about running in-person, small intimate retreats, but I came from a world where 50 to 10000 people in a room, and there’s something very transformational about that, and I think for me, looking again back in hindsight, it was important for me to understand the mechanics of the delivery of a transformational event like that, so I can now step into much more confidently standing in the front of the room to deliver it from the front is I get looking at things from all those different perspectives, so you can really get a beautiful, full angle of the entire experience.
0:05:28.4 S1: The other interesting thing that you were noting about, I guess my approach to event management that also shifted, that event management has been probably a 10-year experience and you experience one of probably the last events, maybe in the second to last events that I have actually ran, and especially at that size, and my psychology and approach to event management had really significantly changed, and one of the biggest things that I would say about that is letting it happen, and when I first started event management, and a lot of things in life where it was holding on really tight and being an absolute control freak of almost trying to force it… Forcing these things to happen, forcing the timeline to say, forcing people to do what the plan is, making sure that everybody stuck to the plan, the speakers, the people coming back from break, the the audio team, the videographers, and really almost being grumpy with people because they weren’t… Following orders and what I actually… I have to stop you right there. That was such a big difference about you…
0:06:38.6 S2: Like now that you’re saying it, this is… Now, putting it together. Yes, go on.
0:06:47.3 S1: It was a big learning for me, and believe me there is I can be the hyperactive control freaking event manager, just like the best of them, but I was so unhappy being that person… ’cause that’s not who I am naturally. And the other part of that controlling element is, and this applied to a lot of the other career paths that I took was the limited by what I can control, and there’s such a huge amount of stress around that, whereas if you actually… This is what you were describing is the classic example of surrender and go with the flow, because there was a huge amount of trust, so I trust… If we’re looking at, again, as the event management example, I trusted in my ability to have planned the event to the best of my ability with all the resources I had available up to that point, and I had to then also trust that there were gonna be things that didn’t go quite to plan, but I had the resources and the people around me to pivot if necessary, there is always gonna be another way, and I think if we get… So they’ll talk about a metaphor for life, if we get so rigidly focused on, it has to be this way, this is the only path, this is the only way that is gonna happen, these are the only results and outcomes that I will be happy with.
0:08:01.3 S1: That’s where we end up getting ourselves all tangled up in knots, whereas just letting it go, letting it flow is actually more fun for everybody and… You get a better outcome.
0:08:14.0 S2: Wow, my mind is sort of blowing up here because I feel like that was what we were all being asked to do this year, like a lot of us planned the year for the best of our ability, and then crazy things happen sometimes they were crazy. Good and they would create a bed or nothing is officially bad, but you know, so bad. And you could either be the grumpy event manager or the one that’s in surrender, and the choice is yours, and that probably dictated a lot of the happiness versus suffering you experienced amidst all of this. Would you agree?
0:08:58.9 S1: Yeah, I would 100% agree on that. And I think even if we look back to the year before, and this hasn’t almost been a year, in my opinion, in my experience, it wasn’t a year in isolation, if you look back up last year where there was a shock, right? There was a shock to our system, and that was the four years, if we’re looking about foundation security stability, our view of the world was rocked and we experienced it in terms of a shock response first. My experience for this year was almost like the dust settling and everything, it was changed for good, and I think we can all agree that we will never go back to whatever it was, because we’ve all been at least awakened and had our opinions and views of the world expanded, whatever way you kind of see the world now, I can pretty much guarantee it was different than how you saw it last year, at the beginning of last year, and this year, for me, it feels like it was really a chance to re-assess what was important, what is important and looking at, that’s not who I am, that’s not…
0:10:09.6 S1: I was doing that because that’s what I always did. I was hanging around with those people because that’s what I’ve always done, I’ve known them since high school or whatever, whatever that was, and suddenly we were given the option to… And almost maybe permission to not have to do those things anymore because they just don’t feel right, or what is important to me, and where do I wanna spend my time, money and energy, because I have options. And if we do look at this year, it was… Again, it’s all talking about perspective, there are now a lot of options that people have, and that’s pretty exciting.
0:10:44.8 S2: Well, that is true, but I would also imagine that there’s a number of people listening, I know that for a fact that as of when we’re recording this, I know the people just that I have interactions within the receiving school and in The Magic lounge that they are not feeling that level of excitement, and I’m curious, if there is a time where you shifted out of, Okay, I’m gonna manage this within an inch of its life, whether it is an event or your own life, to the energy you brought first to the event space and now to your work that you do today and to your personal life, was there a shift that you made that opened you up to feeling excited versus freightened… Yes.
0:11:35.3 S1: And I think just clarify, I’m still scared a lot of the time, just like with anybody else there, the unknown is at the same point exciting as it is scary, and they’re… What I am learning to do in my own life and what I really guide my clients and the people that I work with to do is embrace it and actually reframe it and trust that whatever is happening in terms of your immediate vicinity is not the big picture and that you have all the resources that you need within you right now to deal with whatever is in front of you right now, but looking back through my life, if it’s a very old person sitting by the fire in a rocking chair, sentiment in my life right now, and I’m nowhere near that, but I’m doing a real big life review right now in terms of how did I get where I am now? And how am I viewing the world differently? And there was a significant moment where I’m one of the career paths, and again, they were all stepping stones, but one of my recent career path was when I actually pivoted from body work with osteopathy and naturopathy into more of the psychological space of NLP and Human Behavior Psychology and results coaching, and that we’re moving into more of the psychological working with people, but I was still trying to control the process, and I still needed to know…
0:13:00.7 S1: When I get into a coaching session, I would be thinking about, what are all of the different models that I have in my tool? About what do I need to pull out today, it was a very much an intellectual process, and then what happened was life-changing for me and has been life-changing in the work that I do, and from what… The feedback and I’m getting the clients that I’m working with now is life-changing for them was actually again, another experience around surrender, and it’s an interesting story actually, because if you think about all of the effort that goes into Facebook marketing, there was an opportunity where I was district one day scrolling through my Facebook feed, and it was pretty much the worst Facebook ad I have ever seen, and there was no information on it, it was just a picture of a Colorado Mountain Side. And I said something about, Do you wanna be a nature-connected coach? And that was it. The website was awful, I click through, but there was something about that where… I saw that image, I saw that question and I immediately said, Yes, that is what I was looking for.
0:14:07.6 S1: I didn’t even know that I was looking to become a nature-connected coach. I just saw something which is seed a planted idea, a synchronicity, and I followed that and that was a life-changing experience for me, and interestingly enough, there was 12 people, I think on the course that I went through, and 10 of those people had exactly the same… Synchronistic experience to get on to that course, they just saw something out of the corner of their eye and they were like, Oh yeah, that’s what I needed to do and follow the bread crumbs, and that experience ended up basically 10 days in Eagle, Colorado, out camping in the middle of somebody’s land where we went through a real surrender into nature and it was… What we were being asked to do was let go of all intellectual control and thinking around the coaching, but to actually listen, and I think that’s a really big key thing is to… One of the key phrases I like to use the clients is the nature and the natural world, the spiritual world is always talking, always. What we have to do is learn to listen. And we get so preoccupied with talking all the time that we forget to listen, ask good questions and listen to the answer, so that’s one of the things, and I can’t even do it justice within this conversation, just how monumental-ly life-changing.
0:15:32.4 S1: Those 10 days were the people that I met, the experiences that we went through, but one of the things that it did was that it actually gave me permission to be kinder to myself and to not put all of the pressure on showing up to a client session having to know all the answers and actually the responsibility back on the client to figure things out for themselves, in my job now is to guide them and to actually ask good questions, which means they ask themselves better questions, and then we spend the time together and looking around noticing, I love patterns, I will notice synchronicity. S-numbers are a big thing for me. Birds or another one, animals, those are all messages for me, but I love seeing patterns and answers to questions when the wind whips up after you’ve just been outside and you’re asking yourself a question, that is the natural world talking to you, there’s your guides and your… Whatever. Now, and you wanna put on that your angelic realm, your nature guides the elementals, they’re talking to you, and that was the big moment of surrender for me, I think in a natural answer, which wasn’t such a nutshell, but is there…
0:16:45.5 S1: Letting go actually gets more like I get a much bigger, broader, better result in my own life and in the people that I work with by actually not trying to control the situation, some.
0:16:58.0 S2: Things coming through to me also as you were talking, that the through line in your work has been… In your life is transformation, how did you allow yourself to transform and how do you create space for others to transform… A.
0:17:22.4 S1: 100% agree with that. And the other really interesting thing that we, the collective, we paste from my own and what the experience of my clients is the… We’re talking specifically again about change and this being a very change is transformation, and the natural world is always changing and we are a part of nature, and I think again, we give ourselves… Our life becomes a lot more harmonious when we actually accept that and adapt that psychology around going with the flow and being in harmony with nature, which is all about next year, which is the six year about harmony and balance. But the thing with nature is it never stays the same, it is always, always, always, always in a state of constant change and transformation, and we seem to accept that culturally, we know that the world goes through seasons, we know that a tree will go through different cycles of bearing fruit, losing its leaves, and we seem to accept that theoretically, anyway, in the natural world outside of us, but we seem to resist it, and when it’s happening to us and instead of embracing the cycles of life that we go through, we will resist change and we’ll push against it, which makes it a really a…
0:18:41.3 S1: Change is gonna happen anyway, if you’re not changing, you’re not growing and where it’s all about growth and evolution, and you can either embrace that, you can resist it, it’s gonna happen either way, it’s just one way is gonna be a lot more comfortable than the other way… Yes.
0:18:58.6 S2: Yeah. So this year is not your change, this is the year of transformation.
0:19:04.5 S1: I think that’s a much healthier way for us to all psychologically be looking at it and coming out here is if you’ve ever heard the story about the butterfly and the little boy who found the crystals, the caterpillar and yeah, she found the caterpillar first felt such an overwhelming sense of love and unconditional nurturing for this beautiful creature that he took an input it in nice little home, gave everything it needed, water leaves and nurtured. Nurtured, nurtured, and then one day I noticed that the caterpillar was no longer there, it had started turning into a chrysalis, and the little boy was sad that the caterpillar had changed into something else, but I can embrace that there was transformation going on, but what had started happening when this loving creature noticed that the butterfly was struggling to come out of the Chrysalis, actually started helping by cutting it open, and the long story short is the butterfly didn’t grow into its full potential, and the reason for that being is that there’s actually a biological reason that the caterpillar transforms and actually completely, I don’t know how many people know this, but the caterpillar completely dissolves and loses all form, and there is nothing left of the caterer in the butterfly except for the essence and the cellular makeup of it.
0:20:34.4 S1: And the important part of coming out of the Chrysalis is actually the pressure, the butterfly needs the pressure of the chrysalis to fight again so that it strengthens its wings, so that it mixes its own energy and turns into a strong version of itself as a butterfly and all of the fluid gets pressured out of its wings and stuff, but the point being, it needs that, it needs the resistance and we often try and bypass challenge, and I think that we’re almost maybe helping another person by alleviating their discomfort where sometimes that discomfort is absolutely crucial to our strengthening development so that we actually become the better version of ourselves for where we’re going next.
0:21:23.0 S2: Oh, so good. I use that metaphor a lot around here, but mostly focused on the fact that the butterfly parts won’t start forming until the very last Caterpillar part is dissolved, and so often I see people making negotiations with themselves with the divine, like, I’ll just take this amount of work called at this amount of relationship, I’ll take this amount of essentially security, what they think is security into my next… Whatever it is, or I’m not gonna move on until I have this amount of money in the bank, or this relationship, or whatever it is, and that’s the same as the caterpillar saying, Well, I’ll start turning into a butterfly. I just wanna hold on to a few legs in case I actually can’t fly, that does work, but this other part of it of meeting that challenge to become strong enough to fly… I love that, that is so cool.
0:22:28.3 S1: That was another story actually, interestingly that I remember hearing me 20 years ago now, where I learned that in Australia, I was on one of the very first personal development events that I ever attended, and I could talk for hours and hours about all the synchronicity that basically got me into one place, which led to this, which led to this, which led to this, and that story was very significant at the time, and I needed to hear it, and I’ve never gotten it and adopted the butterfly as a symbol for my life since then, and that is a very… It’s a near and dear story for me, and I think, again, you’re right, there’s so many different ways that we can look at it, and it’s a metaphor that just keeps on given, I think…
0:23:13.0 S2: Yes, yes, it is. The reason I started to reflect on the transformation piece for you is that what I love so much about the way you… At least from my seat, and maybe the front row or the second row of your life, I don’t… It’s probably one IP for whether we’ll talk in live or not, but is that you evolve very gracefully, but I think the important message for you listening, the person is… I hear from a lot of people like this craving of, Am I living my purpose, or the next thing is about living up to what I’m meant to do or meant to be, and I’m often talking about who you are is who you are, like your light is your light, and you could be doing it in many different places, there’s not a destination of a career or a level of service or something quantifiable that can go on a resume that really defines that, it’s… Are you bringing what your unique gift is to the world in any place, and for you, I see you doing that so in such an amazing way, and even for me as your friend and both friend and colleague, I can tell you that you just…
0:24:42.9 S2: Your present in my life makes my own personal transformation to feel more easel and I really admire you living out who you are.
0:24:58.1 S1: Beautiful, thank you so much. I mean, literally, it means the world to me, and I think the advice that I would give is, again, I’ve been there in terms of, and why am I here? What am I supposed to be doing? And the it was the do, do, do all the time. Be better. I was very academically driven, I was very physically sports-orientated, it was always about achieve, achieve them, and there was always this emptiness, and even the career path that I’ve had, I went from being a personal trainer, which that was something that just wasn’t enough. But there were elements of it that I liked and… But it wasn’t enough, and then the next move on to the sports therapy because I was seeking… I’m always seeking the answers, well, there’s questions, and I’m always taking answers to… So then it was to sports therapy, ’cause I was trying… Their clients were coming, that I just couldn’t help them because I didn’t have enough enough… That’s the whole thing, is I always felt like I wasn’t enough, so I needed more… Another certification, another career path I need to moved into sports therapy and still I didn’t know enough, it wasn’t enough.
0:26:04.8 S1: And went into osteopathic medicine, naturopathy wasn’t enough, and I was having clients come in to the clinic room, and I realized, Actually, this is more of a psychological thing, this isn’t a physical thing, so then walked into the world of human behavior and psychology and coaching, and it was always, I needed to be more and I needed to be enough in the pivot point, and believe me, I still have just as many days of doubt as any other person on this planet, and what I’m learning is that actually my strength comes in my vulnerability and the messiness around the growth phase and that I’m actually enough because I’m growing and I’m evolving, and the whole point of me being… Which here is to grow. And if there are people around me who I inspire and wanna walk alongside me, I embrace that and I welcome that, but I’m really working on not needing to be something better, different, more, because that is a never-ending quest for dissatisfaction and not feeling whole and understanding that actually… What I’m here to do is actually just be… That’s actually really freeing.
0:27:26.3 S2: Yes, yes. And a lot of courage to create that freedom.
0:27:31.7 S1: There’s definitely the courage element, which actually… And if you think about it, theoretically, that is not really sad, that we feel that there has to be so much courage and bravery to be ourselves in this world, and that is one thing that I would love to see change as a worldwide global psychology is not needing courage to be yourself and actually waking up every day and knowing that you are acceptable as you are, and a lot of that comes with accepting yourself first, I think that is where all of us can really impact that change is by being the change literally as being the person that looks in the mirror and accept you as you are and see the light instead of looking and seeing all the flaws that maybe we think other people see in us, and accepting that and embracing that as who we are, where… If you just turn the lens and I actually look in the mirror and see all the beautiful things that other people probably already do genuinely see in you, and embracing that you will be that butterfly every day, naturally, and it won’t take that much courage because you strengthen or talking in terms of strengthening your wings, strength and bravery is…
0:28:47.4 S1: Courage is one of those things where the more you do it, the more you actually flex that muscle, the easier it gets, and the things you can achieve are just outstanding.
0:29:00.8 S2: Amati, curious if you have any end of your processes, you do personally adores the year and move into the new one. Oh, goody. Okay, are you good to share them?
0:29:17.0 S1: Yeah, absolutely, I think they’re… Again, is an evolution in terms of who I am at the end of every year, one of the models that I work with with clients is we go through a personal growth cycle, which is based on your own astrological fingerprint, if you like it. So when you came in through the door, and the astrology door. And it just happened to be very lucky. In terms of my year, my personal growth cycle is that I actually restart my cycle in perfect alignment with the start of the Gregorian calendar, and that doesn’t happen for a lot of people, which is why you can feel a little bit off-kilter and off-synch with the rest of the world, because your personal cycle might be slightly different, but for me, I happen to have just fall into align with the rest of the world, and there was almost like a process that I get into now around releasing and really being conscious of… Well, first of all, it’s starting with no judgment, and that’s, I think a very important place for me to start again, coming from a background of being very hard on myself and having a lot of judgmental views on the shots, and my life is actually approaching all of these kind of rituals.
0:30:30.2 S1: As non-judgmental as possible.
0:30:33.6 S2: Can I stop you for a second because I just wanna go back to something you said, ’cause I know my audience, and I know that their ring is back there at something else you said. But a question you answered. So how do you know when your personal year starts?
0:30:54.1 S1: The fingerprint almost almost like the code, if you like, I will figure out from your birth sign. So the time where you came in, that I always think about it is like the fingerprint is like somebody put in a key code at the moment of your birth that’s very significant in individual to you. And what that does is it gives a map of your personal growth cycle, and we all cycle through… We’re talking about cycles and transformation, we all have a natural growth cycle that we go through individually every single year, and that doesn’t change in terms of its pattern, but what happens is we will spiral through, so they’re imagine like the image of a spiral, you feel like you’re going around and running around in circles, but actually what’s happening is you’re looking at the same situation from an elevated perspective, ’cause you’ve grown and evolved up and they’re… So the core cycle that we work with is something that I’ve been developing over the last couple of years from a lot of different models and angles there we mix in the medicine wheel, the directions, the astrological House is the different, and then we’re laying over the top of that is the metaphor of a seed that grows, so if you think about your path through life every year is…
0:32:19.2 S1: And what will be happening, so from… If I use myself as an example, so in January is when I plan my seeds, intention sees dream seeds, however you wanna think about them, but that is the metaphor and the story is that through all of December, I’m harvesting this year. So I’m harvesting what I’ve created over the last 12 months, both cycle and taking responsibility for it and looking at it, the good, the bad, the things that I don’t wanna recreate the things that I love and I wanna continue doing, but I’m taking responsibility for that and putting and really assessing and analyzing, how did I create this? And making decisions around what I take into the next year. So in January is where I will set my dream seeds down into the ground, metaphorically it, and sometimes I’ll even do it, I will actually plant seeds and see how they grow through the year and then through the rest of the 12-month cycle, depending on what your individual cycles, everybody goes through the same cycle, you just do it different times, like everybody has a unique timeframe, and throughout the years, when the dream seeds grow, you’ll go through the germination phase, the sprouting phase.
0:33:29.6 S1: The reaching out and exploring the world. Seeing the sun phase where the fruits start to come, then we harvest at the end of the year, so… Answering that kind of question A, that is a metaphor. Yes.
0:33:41.9 S2: But just because I know the curiosity level is very high, which is awesome, but they would have been… I can tell you know who you are, if you’re listening to Kate, who’s gone on to talk about how do your process… And you were trying to figure out when you’re grosses. Awesome, so it’s very personal. So you and I have birthdays that are pretty close to each other, and that doesn’t mean necessarily that are growth year, still our year starts. Yeah.
0:34:10.9 S1: Some of that comes down to you with, it’s where your rising sign or what you mean sign was your son sign, all that kind of stuff in… Is that how that impacts the astrological houses, but having the caveat here is that they’re… I’m not an astrologer, and I use this as a tool to create a person’s map. And the map is also then, it’s a framework for coaching is a framework for a conversation, and part of that then in terms of my process, if you’re thinking about, Man, for the end of this year, is there what I will lay on top and where your cards beautifully fit into this whole process is, every year I will… This is definitely for myself, and this is where I evolved this model into teaching it and guiding clients through it as well, because I was using it for myself first for years, as each year I will pull oracle guidance for each of the different phases, so. Do you have… What’s the set story, if you like, of the seed growing into the tree and harvesting fruit, but each year, there is gonna be a different theme, a different guidance, different things that my soul is here to learn around each of those phases, so that’s where the oracle card guidance comes into it, and then you layer…
0:35:27.5 S1: And coaching on top of that is the reflecting back, having somebody hold a mirror for you so you can actually look at the shadow aspects of us that… We need them. My hairdresser always says it perfectly is we all need somebody to cut the back of our hair, and that’s just so true ’cause we can’t see it for ourselves, but we still want it to look good, and that’s where our coach beautifully comes into that situation because they can be the one holding the mirror up to the back of your hair for you, so that for me is where the end of the year I will harvest and now I look back at my year and with then into January. And actually give it the time. I think this is the other thing that we have a tendency to rush through the process, and the harvesting and the reflecting is really, really, really important, and not rushing in there is we don’t even stop to celebrate when we’ve achieved something, is the… Really conditioning yourself to actually stop and look back and sit in the present moment and not get so caught up and moving forward, so again, for thinking about the end of this year is really encouraging you to be here now and understand where you are now, before rushing ahead to set intentions for next year or resolutions or however you wanna phrase that, but that’s the important part is actually, for me, is really being present with where you are right now, so that you can have a really good foundation in footing to take that next step forward into the next year.
0:37:07.2 S2: That is a good stuff cake. That is some good stuff. Well, yeah, I have found over the years that my year-end process has become so much less ceremony to it and more about just giving myself time alone with myself to hear my own thoughts.
0:37:26.6 S1: I would 110% in second at plus one, plus one. And interesting because, and this might be slightly controversial, but it’s again, just something that I’m kind of sitting with and working with in my own life is there is less and less need for ritual, but still honoring a situation. And what I mean by that is, it almost feels like it’s a safety net to go through a set of activities or movements, and almost giving the power to that ritual instead of empowering myself and having my making sense there. It’s taking that and knowing like, do I need to do… Then it doesn’t mean I don’t do it, but do I need to say to myself down completely lit a candle in every direction of the room… Call in all the directions. Thank my ancestors go through all of this every single time that I want to have a ceremony, a moment, and is that that power is, is within me to do that, and it isn’t necessarily in the lighting of a candle, although there are beautiful things to do and they have a significant meaning. I’m walking into a world now where I don’t think it’s always necessary to have the show around it, again, it’s just about being…
0:38:47.9 S1: Not the doing.
0:38:49.8 S2: Yes, yes, I love this. I love this. So as we wrap up this conversation and also as someone’s listening, they wrap up their year, are there any last words of wisdom you wanna offer being at the threshold of this New Year that upon us…
0:39:13.8 S1: Well, I think if we cycle back and circle back to how we started the conversation around transformation is really embracing who you’ve become this year and almost celebrating the hardships, because if you’re here right now and you’re still listening, guess what? You survive them, and I can almost pretty much guarantee that you’re stronger because of it, say, this is an opportunity now to look back through and embrace this was a tough year for even just by plans not going to… The way that you wanted me to go up to. Any other way that this life over the last year has caused you hardship, heartache, inconvenience, however you wanna think about it. Each of those moments were an opportunity for growth for you, and I think that there is something significant at this point, at the end of this year to own them, empower yourself because of what you’ve been through this year, and integrate it. So as we go into this next year, which is the sixth year, but it’s also a two to two year, which is a huge year of the master number of six is the harmony, balance unconditional love, and two is all about empowered relationships and standing in unity, and if there is something next year that is super, super significant, so my advice is to take everything that you’ve learned this year and almost you…
0:40:48.9 S1: Give yourself a Power Ranger power up and get ready for next year. Because it’s gonna be a big one.
0:40:55.8 S2: Yes, I love that.
0:41:00.2 S1: I was thinking about one of the things that I started to intertwine of the things that makes me smile is… And also back to my… Am dating myself now, but back to my childhood, I remember the careers would have their cabaret, they would all stand and they would power up and then they were just burst out from their hearts this lie out into the world, and that is something that I really… It makes me smile, it makes me feel happy when I really intentionally will stand there and actually breathe in the light from all around me and I will send it out from my heart like a career stare out into the world and there… It makes me feel good, and hopefully it makes the rest of the world feel… Get too.
0:41:40.9 S2: I know it does. Hey, I know it does. There’s power in their career, taroom, one wants to find you. What is the best way to do that? Oh.
0:41:52.8 S1: I would love that. And I would welcome anybody and to reach out catered Com, and I would love to offer your listeners a very special gift into this new year of 20% off any of my products or services until the end of January. And you can do that by using the code space for Magic.
0:42:15.8 S2: Oh yes, I’m sure if they are a way for them to get their… Like their personal growth here. Is that something that you sit… Can do that for you as well. And if you have any questions about that, please.
0:42:27.4 S1: It is not a… I’m sure in the minutes that we discussed it now, there is just gonna probably more questions than answers, and I will talk at length to any of you that have any questions about any of it, and if there’s anything that I can do or help support any of you in any way, please reach out and let me know…
0:42:48.6 S2: Oh beautiful, thank you so much for being here.
0:42:51.7 S1: Kaatsu. Pleasure, and I look forward to seeing you next year.
0:42:55.7 S2: Yes, and to you listening, thank you so much for being with me on this journey in this year, I am excited to meet you in this new year, and when you do hear for me next, it will be on the other side of my sabbatical, so I’m gonna be bursting with new information, I expect, and I can’t wait to share it with you. Happy, very, very special end of year to you, and I wish you just a magical magical week ahead of you. Make space for me.
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